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But, the pressure of ambient repelling circuits pushes toward this undifferentiation, that Y axis, with the force we call attraction. The sun, running down, slammed its light into the orthogonalities of chlorophyll and perpetuated life therewith. Where is God in all this?

Science found that light is energy. We are not energy, as believed by New Agers. If we were energy we would never sleep. Light, God is always conscious. We are only information.

We are perishable. But, even though in actuality, the heart of every pleasure is a moment of near nonexistence, there were those who hoped to enjoy these moments of near nonexistence by avoiding permanent nonexistence. Salvationist religions, like Judaism, Christianity, and Islam, formed.

And Jesus Christ came to provide eternal life for those who wanted it. You can see the fallacy here. Even with what I know here I am Can you clear that up?

What do Moslems believe about this question? And, Martin Luther, the father of modern Protestantism, believed this. Much of the stuff I write is forbidden and suppressed knowledge.

I try to encapsulate it all to get it all out fast. I have taught two week courses to explain everything so that it is all understood by my students. But, the details can be investigated in dictionaries, encyclopedias, and especially in Google and Wikipedia.

It is very comforting to know the basics of the universe. A banished freemason I met, who was homeless on the street, told them to anyone who would listen. I listened. How did I find out? Before I sent the John Birch Society a twenty page report about this, the only world conspiracy theory accused the Jews. But, I wanted all the real secrets out to everybody, so that no longer would innocent people who stumbled upon them be ruined by the suppressors. The internet came along and I have been obsessively spreading my stuff by internet ever since, though I still snail mail, and I do tell everybody who will listen.

Every publishing company who published my stuff was wiped off the face of the earth and replaced by duplicate companies. That official process started with the Boston Phoenix. THEY thought it would prevent me from exposing them; but, it obsessed me with telling everybody! I will fight to the death!

We must forgive individuals; but, we may hate demons. In Greek, the word demon means a group spirit. And, that is what I am going to do! Do the damned become nonexistent in Hell? Martin Luther believed they did. There is a web site that says that the Old Testament Jews believed that the damned became nonexistent in Hell.

Alexander the Great spread Greek thought where ever he conquered, and, it influenced Middle Eastern thought. Philosophy in the Middle East has many ancient Greek elements. Even the classical Middle Eastern music has the musical scale of Pythagorus. He had figured it out mathematically. The geocentric theory was based upon the time it took planets to circle the zodiac. It was based on more evidence than the theory of the immortality of the soul.

That is why the crescent is the major symbol of Islam. Mohammed is said to have received the Koran from the angel Gabriel, angel of the first heaven, the heaven of the moon. The reality of these heavens is not up in a third dimensional direction, but in the fifth dimensional direction, recently defined for, and accepted by official science, by Dr.

Lisa Randall, a professor of quantum physics in Harvard University. Albert Einstein noticed the various warps of timespace; but he officially defined the fourth dimension to be time. The fifth dimension is along the variously bent contours of warped timespace, caused by gravity, velocity in mechanics, current in electricity, and what is called entropy production rate in thermodynamics, which is identical with polarity cancellation rate. It is by polarity cancellation that things may become nonexistent.

Fire is a fast polarity cancellation rate. It is like, if you take a sheet, to represent energy. Straighten out the sheet and all the wrinkles vanish, become nonexistent. This is not such a vague illustration. I quote this from Discover Magazine, a science magazine. Space with zero Ricci curvature is space without matter — a vacuum.

This was stated by the mathematician Dr. Shing-Tung Yau. This contour graph has been assigned to the eight, ninth, and tenth dimensions. Whereas, the sixth dimension is that direction across probability timelines, side ways in time. And the seventh dimension is the extent of polarity cancellation, identical with entropy. The seventh dimensional definition was necessitated by a Cartesian coordinate graph where the X axis represents polarities separated and the Y axis represents polarities united and cancelled out.

Going to and from the origin is the fifth dimension. For the past ten years I have been associated with a Pentecostal church which believes that even non-Christian babies, if they die undedicated to Christ, will burn in the Lake of Fire for eternity.

Supposedly, getting unbaptised was giving up Heaven to avoid Hell. It is a dangerous yoga, that the freemasons also believe was the Original Sin, and the supreme secret of many mystical secret societies. My associate got it trouble discussing it outright. Someone died practicing it, and he has a Constitutional case on his hands. The Pope reacted to the sacrament of unbaptism by sending out a crusade of knights to suppress the very knowledge of this secret. Two million French people were exterminated by this Albigensian Crusade.

Practice of vagal stimulation was perfectly legal in the Soviet Union and its Communist Block countries, due to their materialistic atheism. LSD blocks these same inhibitory neurons. This is caused by a gene called DISC1, which shows that people with this gene constitute a genotype, with all the human rights of any other genotype.

You talk too much. Jesus said let the children come unto me for of such is the kingdom of heaven. The Catholic Church says that limbo is only hear say but then this same church lies out of the same mouth from which they teach and endorse limbo. Limbo does not exist, Jesus out of His mercy does not condemn unbaptised dead infants to limbo nor to hell.

Stop calling Jesus a barbaric heathen toward infants and children. Following a church which has been managed by popes responsible for selling power, murdering people, covering up abuse of children, etc. Can hardly be called the one and only true faith. Catholics need to wake up and actually read the bible.

Some of you are looking for your life to be turned around. You are looking for some stepping stone to give you confidence in attacking life differently, in a more positive way. Unfortunately, many people look to baptism as this path to a better life while sadly bypassing the one who has promised true, spiritual baptism.

If you are looking for a new life, it can only be found in coming to the cross and empty tomb of Jesus and believing in him, the life-giving and death-defeating Savior. Water baptism will not answer your longing for a new life because there is no power in it to do so. There have been many people who have been baptized multiple times in their life because they went to a certain conference or attended a summer camp that convicted them anew of their sin.

They then felt as if they needed to rededicate their life to Jesus through baptism See number four. Also, there are many people who have been touched by a worship song or the sight of other people getting baptized and they just wanted to be a part of an extremely powerful moment, and so they decided to be baptized with the crowd.

This should cause us some pause when we consider that baptism for people in other countries marks them out for persecution. The cost of being a disciple of Jesus—the cost of handing the keys of your life over to Jesus, so that his commands become the rules for your life—ought to be weighed before making this decision. Baptism is a step of symbolism and obedience. The truth is, though, that one cannot be truly obedient to Jesus unless they believe that Jesus is who he says he is and that he did what the Bible says that he did.

It is Jesus who saves, and it is our faith that unites us to his salvation. In the middle east, they understand what a disciple is. When someone decides to follow a teacher, they make a permanent, lifetime commitment to follow that teacher and obey them, no matter what. That, he explained, is how we get suicide bombers: they are told to do it by their teacher. When someone in the western world decides to become a Christian, they usually have no idea that THAT is exactly what being a disciple of Jesus Christ means… not being a suicide bomber, but following what Jesus taught, and being obedient to Him, no matter what.

Only then could they make that kind of commitment. In Pakistan, you may be killed for your faith. Do you see why I agree, and disagree? Only then can they claim to be a disciple and publicly display their faith. Our model is clear: people need to know what Jesus taught, and then be willing to obey Him. Only then should they be baptized. Therefore go and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit, and teaching them to obey everything I have commanded you.

And surely I am with you always, to the very end of the age. Christians are to baptize disciples. All believers should actually be disciples. Once they understand, they need to know that God has already commanded them to be baptized. At that point there is no reason to wait. Even though we might think different things we still all believe in God.

If you read Acts you will see that Baptism is indeed a necessity! First, we must repent of our sins Yes, Jesus paid for our sins, yet, we are still born in sin. These were all commended for their faith. No, baptism is not required for salvation. You clearly have not studied the Scriptures on this topic.

How do I know? Because I used to be on staff at a church that taught what you believe: that the initial physical evidence of the baptism of the Holy Spirit is speaking in tongues. My wife and I took those 4 pages home and looked up every Scripture. We read them in context to make sure we understood them. His response:. If speaking in tongues is a necessity, why would Paul explain that not all do?

Do yourself a favor. Check the Scriptures, my sister. A question for you: when will God not forgive that denial? What do you think? Sometimes the language Christians use can be confusing. We know we have a relationship with God in exactly the same way we know we have a relationship with anyone! Before you came to GodWords, you had no relationship with me. When you visited my website, you began a relationship with me… but it was pretty much one-sided: you read what I wrote. Then you asked a question and changed the nature of our relationship.

I can now read what YOU write. The Bible tells us that God has been working on you for your whole life. He causes you to be curious about Him, and to wonder about things like having a relationship with Him. At that point, your relationship with God is pretty much one-sided.

When you responded by seeking more information about Him, that changed the nature of your relationship. As you interact with God, your relationship will grow. There are plenty of people who have bad relationships with God.

He makes Himself known to them and they reject Him. He offers peace and joy, and they turn their backs to Him. Everybody HAS a relationship with God, but not all relationships are good. The problem with that idea is that people think they can do whatever they want in life, and there will be no consequences. Rejecting God means that they are on their own in this life, and that they will spend eternity separated from Him — by choice — and that will be awful.

Accepting the fact that God is God and we are not, and taking advantage of His invitation to be loved and protected and nurtured and accepted and taught by Him means that we are not alone in this life, and that we will spend eternity in relationship with Him — by choice — and that will be wonderful. Are you a new creature, Jordan? Have you been born again? If so, you are my brother.

If not, I want you to be my brother… so let me know how I can help. Baptism is in Mathew many scriptures is a part of salvation book of John you must be born of the water and the spirit or you will not enter the Kingdom of heaven therefore it seems you cannot remove or lessen it those who done good to the resurrection to die like Jesus and rise a new life water is his method the simple confound us.

Thanks for writing! If we read John 3 carefully, we can see that Jesus is drawing a parallel. He said that we must be born again. This, of course, is a weird and shocking thing to say. Nicodemus was puzzled, of course. Jesus explains, mentioning the first birth water and the second birth spirit. This is underscored by what John the Baptist said about Jesus in Mark After me comes the one more powerful than I, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to stoop down and untie.

I baptize you with water, but he will baptize you with the Holy Spirit. Salvation is not accomplished by getting wet. Forgiveness of sins is not accomplished by getting wet, either. The new birth is baptism with the Holy Spirit. That is what makes an old creature into a new one.

The picture is of dyeing fabric. We dunk fabric in water and dye, and pull it up to see if the fabric has changed color. All believers should be baptized in front of their community of faith, but that has never, and will never, save anyone.

You appear to have read what I wrote very carefully. Yes, the Bible tells of a number of times that angels appear as human beings. I am not baptized but I am not afraid of Judgment day. Jesus saved the sinners. All religion contains both Justice and a message of piece. Every scripture, in every major religion was chosen by man. I invite your comments on my opinions no matter which side you fall on agree or disagree. You choose your own path in life.

Righteousness equals belief , then you deserve to access all of the realms and Kingdoms in the heavens with God? If you do, then you may need a saviour such as Mohamed or Jesus. I welcome your input and I am not unable to change my convictions. I am a seeker of knowledge, nothing more! A little from here, a little from there. This is a lot more common than most people think.

I lived in Southern California until I was We went to Disneyland a bunch of times. You know what was weird about Disneyland? You had to buy their tickets, at their prices, and you had to show up during the hours when they were open… or you would remain in the parking lot all by yourself.

What do I mean by that? Mormons borrow the idea of God, then use that idea to claim that God was once a man and that men can become gods. The question is not what you like or dislike, Doug. The question is whether what you believe is true. Christianity is exclusive.

Jesus said that HE is the only way to the Father. Is He right, or wrong? Why accept one thing that Jesus taught and reject another? That probably matters, if one wants to go to Heaven. Do you think He would agree with your assessment of how the universe works? Do you think He might tell you that you have it all wrong? I have a pretty good idea of what He would say to you. He said it to me, in fact. I now understand that I can never become the man I was intended to be under my own power.

I can try to be the right person, but I will fail on my own. I have peace in my heart at all times. He then comes to dwell in you and make you new. Surrender, Doug. My grandsons were murdered 16 and 14 stabbed to death and burned this year so very hard for our family.

They came from a 1 parent family They were good boys but they were hanging with the wrong crowd. I feel in my heart they are in heaven. The other night I was laying in bed and I know I saw Larry the 14 year old looking around the corner at me I miss them they were my only grandsonvi feel lost empty sad depressed but I keep going wondering why did such a terrible thing happen to these two your boys it still feels like a dream.

With respect, we should avoid using our feelings as a test for truth. Your grandsons may be in Heaven, or they may not. What we do know is that God will do what is right. I have a question for you, Debbie.

Will you be going to Heaven when you die? If your grandsons are there, they will be hoping to see you. Nobody goes to Heaven without being reconciled to God. He loves you. Do you love Him? I would caution you on this. Sometimes we see what we want to see, and our feelings will often confirm our hopes. We have no evidence that our dead loved ones appear to us at any time, let alone as butterflies or flowers or rabbits or ghosts.

You may feel strong emotions when you see yellow because of your love for your sister, but that does not mean that she appears to you in butterfly form. This kind of thinking is relatively benign, but can — and has, for many — lead to serious theological problems. Theological problems inevitably lead to relationship problems with God, which is why I feel the need to caution you.

No, Willissa…they are not. Angels and humans are simply two different kinds of beings that God has created, like cats and giraffes. Tony can you explain reconciled to God? Thanks for asking! It has to do with money, as with balancing your checkbook, or making sure you got the right change after you buy something. Paul uses this word in several places, but with relationships.

We do the same today. When two people are estranged, they need to reconcile. God did that. That gracious act is only half of the equation, though. God has done His part, and we are His ambassadors, begging people to be reconciled to Him.

Most people think that being forgiven is what allows us to go to Heaven, and not being forgiven sends us to Hell. The Bible tells us that everyone has been forgiven. Read that 2 Corinthians passage and you can see it. No… of course not. People will definitely be in Hell. The New Testament is clear that everyone will either be in Heaven or Hell. He has reconciled the world to Himself, and — in response — we need to be reconciled to Him. I hope that makes sense.

Let me know if you have any questions. Have a great day! I am worried about the end of times. I want us both to go to heaven but I have never been baptized and we dont live a very Christian life. We believe.

But we dont live our life by it. Can we still find salvation in the end? Ask yourself this, if you believe in Jesus? Jesus is awesome and a forgiving heavenly father. The more we study to show ourselves approved just as the Lord ask us to, the closer walk we can have with Jesus.

Everything that happens each day is because Christ already laid it out before the foundation of the world. There is no qoincidence with God. Stay in the word ask Jesus into your heart.. God bless! Anyone can find salvation at any time before they die.

The trouble is that we have no idea when that will actually happen. I will do whatever I can to help you and your husband. Hi Tony. I got baptized for a selfish reason. I got baptized because I was scared to go to hell and thought I had to do it to be saved.. I sinned and did what I wanted after. I always cared about what others think ever since I was a small child and dealt with vanity too.

How can I truly and get to know GOD genuinely without selfish motives? How can I get to know who he truly is and fully trust him? And not a false image of GOD? Does that make sense? You can contact me directly if you want to be more personal. I will do whatever I can to help you trust God more and more. Im confused about what happens when you die. The bible speaks of being asleep unconscience not knowing of anything at all until jesus returns and calls you up. Which says to me dont get cremated.

However the bible also surports your soul going on to heaven immediately. I believe i go to heaven immediately. So which is it that happens?. And do i get cremated or is that wrong? In Matthew 25 we read that Jesus speaks of the resurrection of the dead:.

All the nations will be gathered before him, and he will separate the people one from another as a shepherd separates the sheep from the goats. You should take a look at that passage. At this point in time, nobody is in Heaven or Hell.

We know this because there has been no judgment! Jesus will, as we read in Matthew, judge everybody in the future. After the judgment, THEN people will receive their eternal reward. Now, on to your question about cremation. You should not worry about how your body will be handled after you die. The reasons some people have objections about cremation? Someone who was buried years ago has decomposed, and the surrounding plants and animals and bugs used their body for nutrients.

The God who is able to create Adam from the dust is able to handle this situation, obviously. Another objection to cremation is that pagan cultures have cremated the dead for centuries, and as the argument goes we should avoid doing what the pagans do.

The pagans give birth, eat breakfast, and shake hands with strangers…should we avoid doing these things? Of course not. You can relax. If we were supposed to worry about our dead bodies, we would have specific instructions in the New Testament to guide us. Thanks for that… I have a neughbour that believes in oneness pentecostalism and he tries to make me believe him.. He says Baptism should be in jesus name and we say it should be in the father,son,holy spirit.

I am not baptized yet and im not sure by which name i have to be baptized. Oneness Pentecostals substitute their own teaching for the clear witness of Scripture. In the same way, your neighbor is misled. He believes, as many oneness folks do, that baptism only works if you do it exactly right. I do, so I would baptize as we see in Matthew in the names of the three persons who are all one God. John All things were made by Him; By who, by the Word.

Who is the Word, Jesus. Who was in the world.? Jesus was in the world. And who made the world.? God made the world; therefore this clearly states that God and Jesus are One. Who was the flesh that dwelt among us.?

The way I explained it to my son was like this: if your father came home with his paycheck and signed father on the back, would they cash it.? I said ok, what about signing son. So I said ok, just as you have your father, who is also a carpenter, and a son, three distinct things but only ONE person and his name James.

As for the mention of Baptism earlier, Jesus also taught 3 criteria by which a man must be saved to enter into heaven. But believing on Jesus is only the beginning, not the finalization.

On the day of Pentecost, when Peter and the other disciples were in Jerusalem in the upper room, they were all filled with the Holy Ghost and began to speak in other tongues. As this was happening, others heard and were marveled after Peter spoke unto them about the occurence and in Acts Now when they heard this they were pricked in their heart, and said unto Peter and the rest of the apostles, Men and brethern, what shall we do.?

So we must believe upon Jesus, but then we are commanded to repent-the old man dies out, be baptized-going under the blood having our sins washed away, then filled with the Holy Ghost-ressurecting in Newness of life..

You must put line upon line, and precept upon precept.. The Bible was, is and always will be the infallible Word of God. Therefore, I encourage all to delve into it deeper and as they do to ask God to open up their understanding and to bless them with true wisdom and enlightenment to His Word.

God bless.. You make a good point, Gina. He was talking about surrendering to God and trusting Him, rather than trusting that our own efforts might save us. They cannot, of course. The trouble with your comment is that you leave out a whole bunch of other verses. There is only one God, but there are three persons who make up that one God. You might take this part of the conversation over to another page on this site, The Doctrine of the Trinity.

On the topic of baptism, you again pick and choose a few verses, but fail to include other verses that apply. The people were waiting expectantly and were all wondering in their hearts if John might possibly be the Messiah. But one who is more powerful than I will come, the straps of whose sandals I am not worthy to untie. He will baptize you with the Holy Spirit and fire. Luke This baptism means nothing without the other, spiritual baptism: the baptism with the Holy Spirit. Jesus provides this baptism, and it is this baptism that makes one a Christian.

This baptism needs no ritual, has no script, and cannot be done by human hands. I appreciate your post, Gina. We must use ALL of Scripture, and not only the parts we like. Gina, Thank you for that explanation. The Holy Spirit brought me to your message because I was reading this page and decided to say a prayer but was a little confused while praying because I was not sure if they are one. I asked God to give me clarity on this matter and saw your message a few minutes later.

But, I have a question: when the disciples asked Jesus if they should pray to him he replied, no you pray to the father. And if he was the father why did he have to pray so much while on earth? I even corrected my boyfriend when he said Jesus was his God. I said no God is God, Jesus is the son, our savior. I thought that Jesus was a piece of him in human form but not him entirely. After your explanation it makes more sense.

But if you could please answer that question for further clarity that would be helpful in my journey in getting closer to the lord. Also, I went to catholic schools most of my educational years and have asked this question to teachers and PHD theology professors in college and I never got a clear, concise answer that made sense to me.

You did more for me with your signing of the check analogy than they did. The Philippian jailer feared for his life because of the compromise of security. In fact, he preferred death by his own hand rather than to fall into the cruel charge of his severe superiors, but Paul stopped him. Saint Paul and Silas declared the Good News and this man was saved. The Apostle Paul not only baptized him but the Bible says that Paul baptized the entire household Acts This narrative along with Acts 2 demonstrates the normative place of baptism in the mission of the church and in the life of a believer.

But we say again: baptism is a sign of salvation that is commanded as the norm. Every believer and their children should be baptized, but there are exceptions. I was calling on a Veteran in the next bed. But as I read from the Scriptures and prayed, this elderly gentleman listened in.

The Bible declares that you are a sinner, you cannot save yourself, God will punish sin, but by grace, He extends to you a new life in His Son, Jesus the Christ, fully God and fully Man, who died on the cross for your sins, who rose on the third day that you, too, will live, though you die.

The elderly veteran repented and trusted in Christ as he lay dying. Suddenly, the happy new convert—of 95 years of age or so—lamented to me his regrets. Among those regrets was having squandered his years in profligate living, and having never been baptized. I told him that I would baptize him. I called for the hospital chaplain, and we baptized him. I left him with the covenantal waters running down his face, as he lay in his bed. The Veteran had died. Baptism was a loving sign from God that He had washed away the old man and created a new man.

But what if he had died before baptism? Well, I think you know the answer by now.



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